From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 03:41:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <3f79ff6e-2471-fa6d-08ff-682afd504eca@yandex.ru> <83v9l29yz3.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8qujs0p.fsf@randomsample> <83lfly9vvs.fsf@gnu.org> <835zd29rjb.fsf@gnu.org> <3c558381-f584-a2e5-972e-007221347f16@yandex.ru> <87tv0c2pxc.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="126140"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 26 09:43:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jdUF5-000Wgl-GM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:43:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50050 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdUF4-00041v-Ic for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:43:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdUDY-0001zN-Ga for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:41:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdUDX-00084N-FJ; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:41:43 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jdUDV-0005Qy-2T; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:41:41 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Arthur Miller on Tue, 26 May 2020 07:42:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251437 Archived-At: If people working for those companies or in activities involving such hardware/software, say in some hospital, and would like to use Emacs (or other GNU software) to develop possibly but non-necessary free or "open source" applications to work with/alongside non-free what should they do? One way that can help the free software movement is to get more people using free software, trying to get managment, or otherwise to use more free software, and release existing code under a free software license. E.g, having a free software mode for a propietery program, is just slightly better than depending on the propietery program to edit its source code. But this wouldn't be something that would be suitable for the GNU project, where the goal is to have software to tries to make non-free software irrelevant. Isn't it unnecessary hard on them to not be able to talk about non-free software? Nobody is prohibiting anyone from talking about non-free software. It is just off-topic and unsuitable to discuss non-free software on GNU projects mailing lists. Much like it talking about ornithology on emacs-devel. Isn't it also a limitation on GNU software itself if it can't be used in such cases as well as further inclination for development of non-free software? That isn't the case though, GNU software can be used for such things. The license explicitly allows it, and it is one of the fundamental four software freedoms -- to run the software for any purpose. But the GNU project specifically doesn't try to cater to those needs since they would work against its goals.