From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 23:47:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="66419"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41386@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thomas Fitzsimmons Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 21 05:58:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcLd-000HAJ-Hy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 May 2020 05:58:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46946 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcLc-00048A-L7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:58:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53914) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcBe-0002mK-9I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43398) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcBd-0004HR-W0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:48:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcBd-0000ND-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:48:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 03:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41386 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41386-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41386.15900328641407 (code B ref 41386); Thu, 21 May 2020 03:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2020 03:47:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcB8-0000MN-8M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcB6-0000M8-EG for 41386@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:47:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36548) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcB1-0004EN-4h; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:47:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jbcAz-0007XM-DE; Wed, 20 May 2020 23:47:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thomas Fitzsimmons on Wed, 20 May 2020 10:05:48 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:180698 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Two factor authentication can be implemented by a service without > requiring OAuth 2.0, and vice versa. Ok. But my concern is not about OAuth in particular. The crucial question is, will Gmail in the future permit access from the Free World in any manner whatsoever? In other words, if we look at all the ways of logging in that Gmail permits in the future, will _any_ of them be usable in the Free World? Can you help me find the answer? If it is no, we had better put all our strength into changing that answer. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)