From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 23:53:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="14782"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41386@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Thomas Fitzsimmons Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 05:54:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFo1-0003iw-7I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 05:54:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33834 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFo0-0003tk-5Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44784) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnu-0003ta-6X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:40278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnt-00030Q-Te for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnt-0007fs-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 03:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41386 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41386-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41386.158994680929461 (code B ref 41386); Wed, 20 May 2020 03:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2020 03:53:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51824 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnM-0007f7-Qg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnK-0007eu-Hb for 41386@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFnE-0002p9-VY; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:53:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jbFn6-000436-BO; Tue, 19 May 2020 23:53:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thomas Fitzsimmons on Mon, 18 May 2020 22:05:04 -0400) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:180642 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Some email services seem to be moving toward requiring MUAs to support > OAuth 2.0, one reason being that they would like MUAs to do two factor > authentication. It would be nice to have this capability in Gnus's > nnimap. This may raise some moral issues -- depending on what practical requirements there are. Would you like to explain to me how the two-factor authentication works in practice, and what the user needs to have? For instance, can the user do this using nothing but Emacs running on some operating system (GNU/Linux, we hope)? If not, what else does the user need to have? Does it require the user to have a portable phone? Do those email services plan to require two-factor authentication or offer it as an option for the user? Are there free implementations of OAuth 2.0? What are their licenses? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)