From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 00:17:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="67024"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, joaotavora@gmail.com To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 16 06:18:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZoHj-000HLh-Qs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 06:18:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54460 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZoHi-0007uG-Oq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 00:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZoGs-0006vP-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2020 00:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57634) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZoGs-0003vq-F9; Sat, 16 May 2020 00:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZoGr-0004RE-Gv; Sat, 16 May 2020 00:17:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 15 May 2020 11:10:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250445 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Richard> The built-in Emacs renderer gives ok results when the links don't matter. > Richard> For links, the way it tries to follow them is useless since it doesn't > Richard> go through Tor. > The url library used by eww/shr supports SOCKS, and Tor can be run as > a SOCKS proxy. The issue is even more complex. There are TWO ways I visit web pages from Emacs, neither of which is eww. I want to be able to choose which way to use each time. Doing that manually is easy enough -- if I can SEE the URL in the buffer. So I use lynx -dump to render the HTML, and it shows the URLs of the links at the end. Then I can do what I want to do. The built-in Emacs renderer (is that eww?) doesn't show me the URLs, which means I have no way to follow those links in either of the ways I want to use. Therefore, I need to hide the eww rendering and render with lynx. I would appreciate being able to specify "use lynx -dump to render HTML from my incoming emails." lynx -dump instead of eww that is. Also helpful would be a way to customize how to follow a link in eww rendering, which would let me write Lisp code to do one or the other of the things I want to do. Then maybe I would like eww as much as lynx -dump. But I would also want to be able to grab the URL into the kill buffer. Could eww include those URLs in the rendered text? I would guess lynx -dump is faster too, but I don't know for certain. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)