From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 23:17:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="73694"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eller.helmut@gmail.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 05:19:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZQsU-000J3R-8B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 05:19:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38782 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZQsT-00080s-9k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 23:19:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45746) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZQqU-0005D9-0X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 23:17:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZQqT-0007E8-Lz; Thu, 14 May 2020 23:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZQqS-0007xS-MA; Thu, 14 May 2020 23:17:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 13 May 2020 17:04:14 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250317 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That translates to "either Emacs becomes a Elisp-programmable > > web-browser or goes extinct". HTML is a peripheral application area for Emacs. We should not exaggerate its importance. When I want to look at HTML in an email, I use an external renderer: lynx. The built-in Emacs renderer gives ok results when the links don't matter. For links, the way it tries to follow them is useless since it doesn't go through Tor. Anyway, I'd rather send an email to fetch the page contents. The lynx output makes that easy to do. The built-in Emacs renderer often takes a painfully long time. I wish I could easily tell it to give up without trying if the text is above a certain size or complexity. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)