From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 01:08:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="67618"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: excalamus@tutanota.com, colinetnathan98@gmail.com, andreas.roehler@online.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 07:13:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ6B2-000HSl-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 07:13:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43166 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ6B1-0004ZE-Qm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:12:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ66p-0004NK-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:08:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ66o-0008Va-BA; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:08:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZ66m-00069g-5I; Thu, 14 May 2020 01:08:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Wed, 13 May 2020 11:18:50 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250201 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > So I suggest that GNU Emacs's raison d'ĂȘtre is to be the text > editor that best rewards sustained user investment. I would say that this is one of the virtues of Emacs -- but I would not call this the raison d'ĂȘtre. I think that the investment needed is a downside. The upside is the return you get for that investment. If we could make Emacs give you the return without the investment, that would be even better -- but we don't know how to do that ;-(. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)