From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs popular again with a video Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 23:55:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <55fd40f2-0468-d724-425d-c28c9d17b301@online.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="81272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 13 05:57:04 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYiVz-000L1D-J0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 13 May 2020 05:57:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYiVy-0005NT-Lq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 23:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYiUl-000318-GK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 23:55:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYiUk-000781-Sy; Tue, 12 May 2020 23:55:46 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYiUj-0000av-9v; Tue, 12 May 2020 23:55:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <55fd40f2-0468-d724-425d-c28c9d17b301@online.de> (message from Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= on Tue, 12 May 2020 10:23:04 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250077 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The power of Emacs comes from being able to write new commands a [...], > read and modify commands that are already in Emacs. That is true. That's what "extensible" refers to. The question is, is it worth spending a few paragraphs on those points: > You are reading about GNU Emacs, the GNU incarnation of the advanced, > self-documenting, customizable, extensible editor Emacs. When I wrote the first Emacs in 1976, these were exciting new advances. Most users had never imagined such features in an editor. Maybe today every programmer has seen such features elsewhere, and responds to that statement with, "ho hum." If so, maybe we should delete those paragraphs. On the other hand, maybe the standard of comparison today is something hardly extensible at all. ISTR that Microsoft Turd has macros; can they support nontrivial extensions? What about Google Crocks in a browser, can that support nontrivial extensions? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)