From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 22:29:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> <83pnbegsvm.fsf@gnu.org> <83imh5hby1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="18611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 10 04:32:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXblH-0004ir-Qc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 04:32:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52872 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXblG-0005hn-9C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:32:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbiv-0001JM-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:29:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35943) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbiv-0000tm-71; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:29:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXbit-0005FU-8x; Sat, 09 May 2020 22:29:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= on Sat, 9 May 2020 10:48:34 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249620 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > That was my impression initially too. But in practice it evolved to > a place for the "not quite ready for prime-time" cases: i.e. we > let most everything in, provided they have copyright and adhere > to some minimal conventions. That is a good point. So we don't uphold the same > standard there, never did, I think. Not 100% of the technical conventions, I think -- but the exceptions, the ones we don't insist on before putting the package in ELPA, should be things that we know we can fix when someone has time to do it, because all it takes is some work. Nowadays, I see ELPA as a > staging place for packages to come in, eventually make it into core > _and_ back into ELPA as :core packages. It's ok to use it that way. > FWIW, I don't fully agree with Stefan: we should not require > copyright assignment for inclusion in GNU ELPA if that introduces > needless friction, but we should require of authors, maintainers or > proponents that they make an effort to track down the contributors > and solve this, otherwise it makes no sense for it to be there. It would be unwise to put that sort of work off, because we can't do it on our own. Our doing work is not guaranteed to suffice. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)