From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40671: [DOC] modify literal objects Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:38:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83tv1finob.fsf@gnu.org> <1E9E4C19-37C2-4E24-91B7-8101F9CFBF35@acm.org> <527dc4b5-3176-38b5-f2c1-1483ffc814a1@cs.ucla.edu> <87k12b6sv2.fsf@web.de> <2225099d-16e1-645d-0342-a054da53363f@cs.ucla.edu> <87a7376nv9.fsf@web.de> <99d7a8f9-7732-e1e3-414e-aabbea4433ac@cs.ucla.edu> <87o8rnasfk.fsf@web.de> <9e6c138d-cb9f-6075-34df-a8d1d931343b@cs.ucla.edu> <871rofxbz9.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="128756"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, ke.vigouroux@laposte.net, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 40671@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=83=C2=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 05:39:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBet-000XJh-6I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:39:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBes-0000dS-6l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:39:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBei-0000Rn-Eo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBeg-0006nL-MF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBeg-0006nA-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBeg-0004Ot-6B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40671 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 40671-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40671.158778589716850 (code B ref 40671); Sat, 25 Apr 2020 03:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40671) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2020 03:38:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBdx-0004Ni-C9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:38:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37334) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBdv-0004NT-LP for 40671@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46383) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBdp-0006UR-T8; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBdo-0000Vz-Vb; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:38:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=83=C2=A5rd?= on Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:39:29 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178966 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > That is an interesting point. What is the difference between > CANNOT and SHOULD NOT, operationally? To the user, nothing; there > is no gain from disobeying our advice. It makes a big practical difference to programmers. CANNOT means "If you try to chsnge it, it won't change", and probably also "That will trigger a diagnostic." SHOULOD NOT means "if you try to chsnge it, it will give you no diagnostic and the value will seem to have changed, but afterward bizarre things may happen." -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)