From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:31:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="101008"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, ndame@protonmail.com To: Eric Abrahamsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 25 05:32:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBYD-000Q7P-7P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 05:32:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57410 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBYC-0006ps-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:32:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBXX-0005aq-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:31:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBXW-0001tX-Vm; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:31:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jSBXV-00071m-Sj; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:31:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (message from Eric Abrahamsen on Thu, 23 Apr 2020 14:57:23 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247738 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think it could be even simpler than that: ELPA is built every 24 hours > right now. If we just registered external repos with ELPA, part of the > build process could be pulling from those repos automatically That is rather breathless, so I can't concretely understand the proposal. I can't start to think about what specific consequences it might have. I am not sure which situations you propose to use this solution for. If this is meant as a way to implement pull requests, there is no need for it. We will not implement pull requests by copying proposed patches into our repo before they are installed. There are various ways to implement pull requests. The way I hope we will do it is that maintainers can ask to see the contents of the request, and commit it to our repo if/when that is proper. Until that time, the patch won't be in our repo at all. Or maybe you're proposing a way to make a given package in GNU ELPA virtually included from some other GNU-managed repository; the method consisting of copying each commit automatically from that other repo to the GNU ELPA repo. It is ok to do that, assuming the other repo is managed appropriately, and your method could do it. Other methods could give equivalent results. We could use whichever method is most convenient. The crucial thing is that the repo where the package is really maintained be managed carefully in regard to who can commit changes. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)