From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <874kz0pa9y.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgmjyn60.fsf@gmx.de> <87imnezyt5.fsf@gmx.de> <481a1f16-d661-0f96-2f45-3d5ec9c1132e@yandex.ru> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="71354"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, perry@piermont.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 04:39:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iXzmj-000IPr-Be for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 04:39:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47120 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXzmh-0002Ws-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54607) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iXzmG-0002Wm-J7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:38:37 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iXzmF-00033N-BE; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:38:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iXzmE-0002Mo-H1; Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:38:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <481a1f16-d661-0f96-2f45-3d5ec9c1132e@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:27:50 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242599 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > The larger audience I meant here are the existing users of Emacs. A lot > of which avoid reporting bugs to Debbugs. And I know that because I > maintain some third-party packages with different issue trackers. Maybe some of the people who report bugs for other packages might avoid reporting bugs for Emacs. If so, could you ask them why they avoid it? The recommended way to report one does not involve using Debbugs directly. It is M-x report-emacs-bug. Do they not know about report-emacs-bug? Is there some practical obstacle for using that? Do they have some other kind of reason? -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)