From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 22:36:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <7803c5de-e139-01ed-e9e3-98abb875782b@grinta.net> <2d777e7b-28d9-36a5-073d-b439fca9706a@grinta.net> <1548067539.3478998.1639830432.03003247@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87bm47558t.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87pnsm2vsm.fsf@russet.org.uk> <878sz7u2f5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87o976p6xt.fsf_-_@russet.org.uk> <87tvgm7fnu.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="150534"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 02 04:36:47 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gzvSA-000d0Y-Fw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Mar 2019 04:36:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47872 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gzvS9-0004NV-Fa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2019 22:36:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45693) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gzvS3-0004NQ-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2019 22:36:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([209.51.188.10]:49717) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gzvRz-00061x-LS; Fri, 01 Mar 2019 22:36:36 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gzvRz-0006w7-Fu; Fri, 01 Mar 2019 22:36:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 01 Mar 2019 12:25:40 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233754 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think a plain `make` shouldn't perform a `git fetch` every time the > Makefile changes. It's OK to require a `git fetch` in that case, but > if/when the `git fetch` happens should be under the control of the user > (i.e. should require some explicit step like `make update-elpa`). I don't think it is right for 'make' to affect the source files people edit, except in limited automatic ways. There are sometimes reasons to continue building the same checkout -- perhaps making some local edits -- and excluding all other changes that could confuse matters. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)