From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [found the culprit] Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <27024.1542249282@alto> <699bb0e3-e2b9-43e9-b5e5-8113a7219d6b@default> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542409199 13373 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2018 22:59:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 22:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 16 23:59:55 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn5e-0003Kv-Bl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:59:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47345 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn7k-0005s0-Ti for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:02:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn7c-0005qv-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:01:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn7Z-0003Bf-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:01:55 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn79-0002e8-5t; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:01:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gNn79-0001nd-20; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 18:01:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: <699bb0e3-e2b9-43e9-b5e5-8113a7219d6b@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:17:00 -0800 (PST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231206 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I can't speak for Richard, but my response to > your question would be that if, as in the case > of zip, there is _no distinction_, then we need > not distinguish. We can just do what we do now: > perform that atomic action. Uncompression produces one file which corresponds to the original file. You can type Z again and recompress it. Unpacking one archive file can result in multiple files. It is misleading semantically to identify this with uncompression. A Dired command to unpack an archive might lead to confusing results, because the unpacked files might be outside the directory you are operating on. I do not see how to support packing an archive in Dired, because I do not see a clean and simple way to specify which files to put in it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)