From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. (WAS: delete-selection-mode as default) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0CCFABF4-0F2B-4DAA-9C8E-11E1254A325E@gmail.com> <87woqka4wg.fsf_-_@red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1539672277 16297 195.159.176.226 (16 Oct 2018 06:44:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 06:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, noeltaylo@gmail.com, right.ho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 16 08:44:32 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ5h-00045g-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:44:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56244 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ7o-0003BZ-9t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:46:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49415) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6f-0003AH-9V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ6N-0005kM-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:45:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ66-00053F-KH; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gCJ66-0002p9-Bq; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 02:44:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Yuri Khan on Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:26:39 +0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230409 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Simple: C-z for Undo, C-S-z and possibly C-y for Redo, in cua-mode, C-z is an important Emacs command. To change it would hurt anyone. CUA mode is not the main interface for Emacs. To add this feature we need to have it work with the usual command set. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)