From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs/Mutt and Efail or OpenPGP is safer than S/MIME? Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 22:34:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878t8lfgu3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <83o9hfk311.fsf@gnu.org> <83vabmiaju.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1526610808 27967 195.159.176.226 (18 May 2018 02:33:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 02:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: oub@mat.ucm.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 18 04:33:23 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVCt-0007Bf-CH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2018 04:33:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVF0-0001aD-Ey for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 22:35:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36336) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVES-0001Cl-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 22:35:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVEQ-000325-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2018 22:35:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVEO-00030A-Tz; Thu, 17 May 2018 22:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fJVEO-0006fC-4b; Thu, 17 May 2018 22:34:56 -0400 In-reply-to: <83vabmiaju.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 17 May 2018 18:09:09 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225385 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I don't think HTML rendering per se is the problem. The problem is > > > when the MUA automatically fetches stuff referenced in the email as a > > > URL pointing to some server. > > > > Indeed, that's what does it -- but this is a part of HTML rendering, > > isn't it? > Not a necessary part, no. E.g., Rmail invokes shr.el to render an > HTML body while disabling image loading, and since shr.el doesn't > support CSS, it doesn't fetch CSS, either. We are miscommunicating. What I meant is that this operation, if and when it is done, is part of HTML rendering. I am sorry I didn't make that clear. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.