From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87inaiss6l.fsf@web.de> <6FCF6ACA-4F29-4B6B-BE9D-D7130C6E9495@gnu.org> <87fu5moe4c.fsf@web.de> <877eqyocro.fsf@web.de> <83zi3uz4nb.fsf@gnu.org> <0b1dd3fa-e0b0-ed20-a256-dd92d1c1826f@dancol.org> <8bc3c4c7-dfc7-987a-95e7-bd309e2326c6@cs.ucla.edu> <03118DC0-39DA-4AB5-980E-A33809B9A5EE@raeburn.org> <83vaeas8uz.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgf6s3aa.fsf@gnu.org> <8b94336f-1bb4-84ab-263b-af5ba40bfca4@cs.ucla.edu> <673d6612-f0d4-5d34-c6ee-a276dbba3068@cs.ucla.edu> <836069rxfw.fsf@gnu.org> <83fu5brer1.fsf@gnu.org> <9bd2a797-22b5-4c30-a39a-b5bd5dc98632@dancol.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520463611 31507 195.159.176.226 (7 Mar 2018 23:00:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 23:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 08 00:00:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eti2R-0006VX-40 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 23:59:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35967 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eti4T-0003Ts-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:02:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57381) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eti3p-0003E5-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eti3o-0002of-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eti3g-0002hN-3G; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:16 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eti3f-0001w3-AV; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:15 -0500 In-reply-to: <9bd2a797-22b5-4c30-a39a-b5bd5dc98632@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Wed, 7 Mar 2018 11:38:47 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223456 [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Take a look at enriched.el (and etc/enriched.txt as the demonstration > > of its capabilities): we already have the capability for serializing > > this, had it for many years. > That's fine so long as you have a file you want to edit _only_ with > Emacs. Files that need to be understood by other tools would need > information about indentation adjustment included in some compatible way > (maybe a comment), but since other tools would know nothing of this > information, it would go out of date. Requiring that people edit a > source file only with Emacs is not realistic. I agree. One of the features we will want is to make Emacs able to read and write ODT format and RTF, even if at first it can only handle subsets of their features. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.