From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The name gnus-cloud.el Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87374jd66s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bmj6dda0.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87vahe911g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87374id7jy.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <877ett8g7k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a7yn7tqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878te75xa1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8snpew2.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp1gm2c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1xelgcp.fsf@gnu.org> <83po75jxiv.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514147615 17491 195.159.176.226 (24 Dec 2017 20:33:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 20:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 24 21:33:31 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCxf-00043d-3r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 21:33:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCzb-0000lg-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:35:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCyi-0000lA-BO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCyh-0007CU-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34220) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCyf-0007AQ-NU; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eTCyf-0005ru-4M; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 15:34:33 -0500 In-reply-to: <83po75jxiv.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 23 Dec 2017 17:04:40 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221402 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > If we never use it, unconditionally, then we do follow the crowd, just You're using a unique definition of "follow". If someone else walks out of a restaurant as you enter it, do you say "Stop following me"? The GNU Project follows a policy of rejecting the term "cloud computing", or "cloud" for short. > A silly idea doesn't become a smart idea just > by negating everything it says. I agree, and in https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html you'll see we hardly condemn all the things that some call "cloud computing". On the contrary, we say that those things are different issues: some are ok, some are bad, so _let's not mix them up_. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.