From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The name gnus-cloud.el Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:51:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87374jd66s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bmj6dda0.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87vahe911g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87374id7jy.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <877ett8g7k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a7yn7tqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878te75xa1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513875153 18971 195.159.176.226 (21 Dec 2017 16:52:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "John Wiegley" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 21 17:52:29 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eS454-0004QC-BN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 17:52:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59093 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eS471-0000Rj-Bt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39945) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eS43u-0006pb-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:51:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eS43t-0001fI-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eS43p-0001cr-2s; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:51:09 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eS43n-0008CL-4A; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:51:07 -0500 In-reply-to: (johnw@gnu.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221305 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I have no issue with the name gnus-cloud.el. Given the modern era, it has come > to simply mean "The data lives on someone else's computer". I wish it had such a simple and clear meaning. Please look at https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#CloudComputing for the explanation of why the term "cloud"'s confusion has real influence and harmful effects. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See https://stallman.org/skype.html.