From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28790: Replaced "which see" with "q.v.". Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507854433 22535 195.159.176.226 (13 Oct 2017 00:27:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 00:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 28790@debbugs.gnu.org To: John Williams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 13 02:27:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noc-0004PB-LY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Oct 2017 02:27:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47866 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noi-0006mk-K4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2nod-0006mf-JJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:27:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noc-0006tu-Ns for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:27:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:56041) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noc-0006tp-KU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noc-0001GV-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:27:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 00:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28790 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 28790-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28790.15078544054839 (code B ref 28790); Fri, 13 Oct 2017 00:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28790) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2017 00:26:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36489 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noL-0001Fz-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noK-0001Fn-FV for 28790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noE-0006lh-C8 for 28790@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noB-0006kx-SZ; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e2noB-0006mx-Dn; Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:26:35 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from John Williams on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:22:50 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:138311 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] "This is about foobar, which see" is a customary usage in English. Perhaps not used so much nowadays as 50 years ago. People who don't know it will have a good chance of figuring it out from the meanings of the two words." As for "q.v.", that is an erudite abbreviation that most people won't know, and won't have any way to figure out. Thus, this change would make the text harder to understand. Please don't make this change. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.