From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Licence of ts-comint Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:03:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1502621936.3273210.1071832168.58C017A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503342243 15385 195.159.176.226 (21 Aug 2017 19:04:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jostein@kjonigsen.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 21:03:57 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1djrzP-0003Xl-FA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:03:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44839 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djrzV-0006Rw-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:04:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56180) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djryj-0006R2-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djryi-0007oP-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1djryb-0007ix-RX; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:03:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1djryb-0004Tt-CO; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:03:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <1502621936.3273210.1071832168.58C017A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> (message from Jostein =?utf-8?Q?Kj=C3=B8nigsen?= on Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:58:56 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217665 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] It is true that some people ridicule us for using the GNU GPL. Mostly they either don't value the purpose, or don't even know what the purpose is. If you don't understand the job the GNU GPL is meant to do, you can't make a rational argument that it fails to do the job, or that it is unnecessary. The purpose of the GNU GPL is to make sure all users of GNU programs get the freedom to control them. For an explanation of these freedoms, see https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html. We have seen free programs be replaced by modified versions which are proprietary. That happened in 1984 with Tex: the original version was free, but TeX for Unix was nonfree. That happened in the 80s and 90s with X Windows -- the original version was free, but Unix variants typically came with nonfree versions of X, and no free version would run on them. Now it is happening with LLVM. Because LLVM is under a weak license, it gave nVidia an easy way to make a proprietary compiler for its GPU. If LLVM were GPL'd -- or if it did not exist -- nVidia would have had to use a GPL'd starting point, would have had to make its version free, would have had to reveal the GPU's instruction set -- which would have been a great and important victory for freedom. Copyleft is vital for the cause of freedom. Apple opposes freedom, and Google doesn't care much either way. That is why they support the development of a non-copylefted compiler. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.