From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27932: 26.0.50; Feature request: prevent scroll commands from changing the buffer location of point Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83tw1oy54c.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501882684 30314 195.159.176.226 (4 Aug 2017 21:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 27932@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 04 23:37:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHQ-0006iw-J0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 23:37:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54478 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHW-0007lP-EV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHH-0007jf-2w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHG-0002O2-7S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39409) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHG-0002Nn-4i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkHF-0005HX-Uc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 21:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 27932 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 27932-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B27932.150188257920251 (code B ref 27932); Fri, 04 Aug 2017 21:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 27932) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2017 21:36:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkGZ-0005GZ-Ie for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkGW-0005GL-VP for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkGR-0001HX-5h for 27932@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkGN-0001Fc-Rb; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ddkGN-0000cn-0D; Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:36:07 -0400 In-reply-to: <83tw1oy54c.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 03 Aug 2017 19:42:59 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:135361 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It would require a complete rewrite of most of the display engine > code. The Emacs display engine is based on the principle that point > should always be visible, so whenever it becomes invisible, Emacs > scrolls the window to make it visible again. I don't think the change would be terribly hard. One would have to find the places that insist on putting point on the screen, but I think the changes required in each of those places would not be big. If someone wants to try it, I encourage per to try it. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.