From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some hard numbers on licenses used by elisp packages Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87shi4z7ps.fsf@bernoul.li> <87zic9zuof.fsf@bernoul.li> <877ezaajme.fsf@bernoul.li> <87shhw2xuv.fsf@bernoul.li> <87a844cmgx.fsf@ernst> <874ltwbzpl.fsf@bernoul.li> <87y3r8mh7m.fsf@floss> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501355254 23347 195.159.176.226 (29 Jul 2017 19:07:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, mats.lidell@cag.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 29 21:07:30 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX5A-0005Xb-52 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 21:07:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53161 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX5F-0006ha-Ut for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34932) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX53-0006gH-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX52-0003kX-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX4v-0003eN-4I; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dbX4u-0000tv-QY; Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:07:08 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y3r8mh7m.fsf@floss> (message from Karl Fogel on Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:36:45 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217140 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >Github actively encourages users to specify the license. (Yes, they > >suggest free software as well as open source licenses.) > There's a difference? Yes, there is a practical difference. > If you're thinking that "free software" == "copyleft" and "open > source" == "non-copyleft", that's actually not the case. For > example, the GPL is both a free software and an open source > license, and the same is true of (say) the MIT license. That is correct. However, there is a between open source licenses and free licenses -- in a different area. A few open source programs use licenses which are too restrictive to qualify as free. Fortunately the number of those programs seems to be small. I think that over 99% of all open source source programs are free. https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html gives a full explanation. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.