From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some hard numbers on licenses used by elisp packages Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:23:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87shi4z7ps.fsf@bernoul.li> <87zic9zuof.fsf@bernoul.li> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499948695 31462 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2017 12:24:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 13 14:24:50 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVdAn-0007sc-7r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:24:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVdAs-00029h-Ng for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:24:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34881) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVd9h-00024m-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVd9g-0004qO-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:23:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVd9b-0004nm-02; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dVd9a-00051z-A8; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:23:34 -0400 In-reply-to: <87zic9zuof.fsf@bernoul.li> (message from Jonas Bernoulli on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:49:52 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216576 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This may be because the > > library lacks a permission statement altogether (possibly because an > > accompanying ~LICENSE~ file is considered sufficient by the upstream), > > but it may also be because ~elx-license~ does not attempt to detect the > > used non-standard and/or non-fsf permission statement, or because of > > typos in the statement, or for a number of other reasons. We need to get a handle on what is really going on for these cases. A typo in a license notice, or an unusual license, might not be a real problem. The lack of a clearly stated free license is a real problem, and the mere possibility that someone stated a license for it in some other site is not enough to make the problem go away. We need to find out what is going on in those 500 packages. One useful way to investigate would be to pick 10 of those packages, and see what is the situation with each of them. Would someone please volunteer to do this? > > Does that mean the Eclipse Public License? > My guess is as good as yours; the string ";; License: EPL" was found. Could someone please check for certain? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.