From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <7s37aapc4g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fue7c32j.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83r2xrl8kp.fsf@gnu.org> <83d19bkz60.fsf@gnu.org> <87shi68y6m.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87bmos1lgy.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499773706 19325 195.159.176.226 (11 Jul 2017 11:48:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 11:48:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, rgm@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, ken.manheimer@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 11 13:48:22 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUteP-0004hy-6K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:48:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45651 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUteU-0005a1-Ku for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:48:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUtd4-0004ot-2d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUtd3-0003Oc-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:46:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUtbx-0002cf-J1; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:45:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dUtbw-0004c1-6X; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:45:48 -0400 In-reply-to: <87bmos1lgy.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216467 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We don't need a scalable solution for Magit. It just needs to work > > for Magit, > No, I think this is wrong. Magit is just indicative of the more general > problem. We had the same discussion several years back about dash. It was necessary to do work to fix the problem for dash. Now it is necessary to do work to fix the problem for Magit. We can optimize some aspects of the work, and we're working on that. (Thanks for helping to do this.) But I can't envision any more scalable way of doing the work that we don't optimize away. A more long-term approach is to prevent other projects from getting into the same situation. So I've taken up that issue. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.