From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:26:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <7s37aapc4g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fue7c32j.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499679001 12869 195.159.176.226 (10 Jul 2017 09:30:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, rgm@gnu.org, ken.manheimer@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 10 11:29:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dUV0n-0002n5-Ks for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:29:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUV0t-0001kT-3Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:29:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUUyd-0008K9-KW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:27:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUUyc-0002Ub-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:27:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38293) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUUxa-0001oT-Ra; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dUUxa-00038k-0B; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 05:26:30 -0400 In-reply-to: <87fue7c32j.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216400 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > 1) Get list of all contributors > 2) Email them all, recording the date > 3) Email those who respond instructions > 4) Email assign@fsf to find out current status > 5) Email those who havent again > 6) Reply to people who say "haven't heard anything" > 7) Repeat some variation of 4,5, and 6 > 8) Work out how many are left > 9) Once n < 3 or 4 check how big their contributions are > 10) Write them out Step 4 is due to FSF procedures, so I will try to change them to eliminate it. I hope the clerk will directly notify the person managing this process when each package contributor's papers arrive. The rest, however, has nothing to do with how the FSF operates. At least, not that I can see. It is rather the nature of persuading many individuals to do something, independent of what the something is. Do you have any suggestions for how to simplify parts other than step 4? Step 8 is easy if you make a list of all the contributors, one per line, and add a * once a contributors's papers are done. I think that will be faster and easier than using RT to keep track of them. We don't have to wait till there are only 4 nonsigning contributors to start steps 9 and 10. It would be feasible to do with 10 or 20 or 50 contributors left out, if their code is small. Thus, I suggest identifying after a few months those whose code is not too hard to replace. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.