From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499295792 26860 195.159.176.226 (5 Jul 2017 23:03:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 06 01:03:09 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dStK8-0006n6-00 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 01:03:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48436 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dStKD-0002p9-7Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dStK6-0002ot-QI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dStK6-00031n-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dStK2-0002zE-Si; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dStK2-0005uF-BA; Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:03:02 -0400 In-reply-to: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93sca?= =?utf-8?Q?r?= Fuentes on Wed, 05 Jul 2017 18:22:00 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216197 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm afraid that you guys are missing the point. This has no relation > with the maintainer of Magit, but with the fact that Magit cannot be > distributed with Emacs. You've hit the nail on the head. I am not saying anything either good or bad about Magit as such, because that's not the issue here. We have a problem in Emacs: it doesn't contain a good interface to git. People often recommend something that is not in Emacs. That's not a good situation. I want to fix it. In principle, we could fix it with Magit. I would be very glad if we did. That would require tracking down lots of people and convincing them to sign the legal papers, and maybe replacing some pieces of code whose authors didn't sign. A year ago, more or less, I asked people if we could do this and I was told it was impossible. If we don't fix it with Magit, we need something else to fix it with. So I asked people to build a suitable something else. However, if there is now a real possibility of putting Magit into Emacs, of course I would like to do it that way. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.