From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25443: Unnecessary building of dictionary files Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87bmvaljkw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87vatehnss.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87wpdtd6i3.fsf@russet.org.uk> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1484790926 28887 195.159.176.226 (19 Jan 2017 01:55:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25443@debbugs.gnu.org To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 19 02:55:21 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wR-00062L-LL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 02:55:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wW-0002Nr-Bk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:55:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53944) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wN-0002NY-Ik for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wM-0001ak-MB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:55:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:36906) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wM-0001aZ-IW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1wM-0004Wr-C5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:55:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25443 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25443-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25443.148479086817350 (code B ref 25443); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25443) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2017 01:54:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35104 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1vn-0004Vm-SB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:54:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34615) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1vm-0004Va-Qp for 25443@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1va-0001Cd-Ep for 25443@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:54:21 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1um-0000tf-AL; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:53:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cU1ul-0007xi-RH; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:53:23 -0500 In-reply-to: <87wpdtd6i3.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128224 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > AFAICT, we cannot update CTLau.html from a downstream source any > longer. And either way, it has not been updated since 2001, except for a > change to formatted in the licence comments. If this is because no one has wanted to change it, then it is neither here nor there. > I agree with this position, but I see no moral or ethical issue in > changing our minds about what the real source code is. I have raised a > technical question; I think it only needs a technical answer. I agree with that formulation of the issue. If we have changes to make, would we rather make them on CTLau.html, or on the processed Elisp-format file? Has anyone talked with Handa-san? When did we last hear from him? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.