From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:07:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <9b6a0571-b2ae-a5dd-a643-3595e8f71cd6@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480537139 3128 195.159.176.226 (30 Nov 2016 20:18:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 21:18:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBLD-0008Fr-Oc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 21:18:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBLH-0006ak-F8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:18:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45210) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBAX-0005S4-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBAT-0003fe-UA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:07:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBAI-0003V7-0j; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:07:38 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cCBAH-0002YL-HV; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:07:37 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:01:35 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209830 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm more worried about the next level up. Although the dump is pure data > to the machine, it's not pure data to Elisp. Since the dump would > contain bytecodes, if attackers can alter the bytecodes then they can > execute whatever Elisp code they want. If they can change installed system files, they are already in control of the machine, so why worry about this? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.