From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: When should ralloc.c be used? (WAS: bug#24358) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:14 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87twe6sx2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87eg51ng4r.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <87k2djwumn.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h98nidvd.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3rvtsf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83k2dihpm9.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p2wzgj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <838ttyhhzu.fsf@gnu.org> <871szqwu51.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> <83d1iq5ib1.fsf@gnu.org> <83r3753c8j.fsf@gnu.org> <83r374wh32.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477600851 14561 195.159.176.226 (27 Oct 2016 20:40:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 20:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 22:40:47 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTU-0001H7-Ng for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 22:40:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44486 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTX-00062h-9H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTM-000613-D8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTL-00067P-P4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTD-0005zB-By; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bzrTC-0004w5-Co; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 16:40:14 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 26 Oct 2016 18:36:02 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208892 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Eli has mentioned a simpler approach, where we build an .elc file when > saving Emacs state and load the .elc file during normal startup. The > main worry about this approach is performance. Any such scheme has this problem: how to find all the places where initialization has stored some sort of value? They do not all have ways to access them and set them from Lisp. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.