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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: delete-other-frames
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:45:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1bdlPn-0005Ch-I4@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49a2a9c7-8573-4f07-897f-3eb444679d8a@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 26 Aug 2016 23:31:19 -0700 (PDT))

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  > 1. If there is only one frame in the discussion, and @var{f}
  > is a name for it, then "delete the frame, @var{f}" is correct.

You're right.  I must have been in a daze.

  > But if there might be more than one frame in the discussion,
  > and @var{f} is the one we are concerned with at present, then
  > this is correct: "delete the frame @var{f}".  (Note: no comma.)
  > And so is this: "delete frame @var{f}".

Yes.  Exactly.  A comparable example in algebra is "Square the number x."

  > 2. I think Eli was talking about something different, but
  > related: the fact that in Emacs doc the name of a parameter
  > is often chosen to be a type name, 

Grammatically, it does not matter whether the argument's name is f or
frame.  In the first case, the sentence should be, "delete the frame
@var{f}", shortened to "delete frame @var{f}".  In the second case,
the sentence should be, "delete the frame @var{frame}", shortened to
"delete frame @var{frame}".

Whether the argument name is the same as the description, or not,
has no effect.

				       and a convention is to
  > omit the type noun to which the restrictive appositive
  > applies and let the parameter name stand alone.

  > IOW, if the name of the individual echoes the name of the
  > type then we can get by with just the individual name.

It is grammatical to omit the description of the argument, and use
just its name.  There must be no article, in this usage.

  > Example:

  > Just "copy FILE to DIRECTORY", 

Here FILE and DIRECTORY are both names of argument values,
so they must have no articles.

   "copy F to D"

is equally grammatical, but it is clear only if the reader already
knows that F is a file and D is a directory.  Otherwise, we need to
say so.

  "copy the FILE to the DIRECTORY"

is grammatically incorrect because you can't put an article on a name.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-27 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-23  8:19 delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-23 14:09 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-23 17:56   ` delete-other-frames Richard Copley
2016-08-23 18:31     ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-23 19:55       ` delete-other-frames Richard Copley
2016-08-24  9:07     ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-24  9:06   ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-25  9:16     ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-25 14:46       ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-27  1:32         ` delete-other-frames Richard Stallman
2016-08-27  7:40           ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <<E1bdSUT-00059T-8W@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-08-27  6:31           ` delete-other-frames Drew Adams
2016-08-27  7:45             ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-27 13:32             ` delete-other-frames allan gottlieb
2016-08-27 13:40               ` delete-other-frames allan gottlieb
2016-08-27 21:45             ` Richard Stallman [this message]
     [not found]           ` <<49a2a9c7-8573-4f07-897f-3eb444679d8a@default>
     [not found]             ` <<E1bdlPn-0005Ch-I4@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-08-28  0:41               ` delete-other-frames Drew Adams
     [not found] <<<57BC072F.9070704@gmx.at>
     [not found] <<57BC072F.9070704@gmx.at>

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