From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:54:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468083312 2709 80.91.229.3 (9 Jul 2016 16:55:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 16:55:12 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 18:55:03 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWv-0000ZN-Jq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:55:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51811 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWv-0003bt-1t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWm-0003aV-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWl-0006Pd-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:54:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWl-0006Ox-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:54:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bLvWi-0003Gx-Dp; Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:54:48 -0400 In-reply-to: <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> (message from Ted Zlatanov on Fri, 08 Jul 2016 09:27:55 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205471 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This can easily be encoded in a database table so it's searchable, > indexed by symbol name or file name (to build a history), etc. as part > of the pull request system. It can be semi-automatic: the system figures > out the file and symbol changes, then the developer adds the rest (and > the review doesn't end until this is done). Given a program that can determine which function or entity name to associate with each line, it would not be hard to make a list of which entities are changed in a given patch. Do we have such a program? I don't know that we do. However, determining what kind of change was made to a certain entity in a certain patch is much harder. Consider this: * file.c (create_swimming_pool): New function (modernize_building): Call it. How would a program decide whether "Call it." is enough to say about the change in modernize_building, or whether it is necessary to say more? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.