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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Nikolai Weibull <now@disu.se>
Cc: kaushal.modi@gmail.com, rswgnu@gmail.com, e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 18:30:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1bKvL1-0001VM-8G@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADdV=Mu-T7PEtMf+aTJu3XF6Nfm9d2P-iaEWLHFHTHCh9uzKOA@mail.gmail.com> (message from Nikolai Weibull on Wed, 6 Jul 2016 09:12:00 +0200)

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  > > Why would you want to convert a todo list into HTML or PDF?
  > > I just don't see the utility.

  > To share it with others in paper form.

I have never wanted to do that with my todo lists.
I just don't see the utility of doing it.

If you find it useful, by all means do it.
I am not arguing that you shouldn't be able to do this,
or that Emacs shouldn't facilitate it.
If you are trying to argue with me about that, you're missing the point.

Rather, I am an example of many users (I'm sure we are many) who don't
want to print out our todo lists, and the point is this: with us,
building a mode for editing todo lists on top of something for
printing out formatted files is unnatural.

I think the todo editing features should be presented as someting
simple and self-contained.

If they also work with structured editing designed for export, I see
nothing wrong with that.  But they should not be presented to users
as something based on the structured editing for export.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-06 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-15 20:55 Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) Robert Weiner
2016-06-15 21:53 ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole John Wiegley
2016-06-15 22:16   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16  0:39     ` John Wiegley
2016-06-16 14:41       ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 23:18         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-16 23:51           ` John Wiegley
2016-06-17  0:19             ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17  5:02               ` Tom
2016-06-17 15:29                 ` raman
2016-06-17 23:54                 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-18 16:47                 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-18 17:05                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-28 15:23                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-28 15:43                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-29 14:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 15:04                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-30 17:58                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30 23:02                         ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01  7:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01  8:17                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01  9:46                               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-01 20:53                               ` Tom
2016-07-05 18:24                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 23:01                                 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:53                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:41                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02  7:10                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:06                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 18:38                             ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 19:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01 21:11                                 ` Tom
2016-07-02  6:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:13                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 21:34                                 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 21:58                                   ` John Mastro
2016-07-02  7:05                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02  9:13                                     ` Achim Gratz
2016-07-02 10:07                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02 10:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:07                                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:57                                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:32                                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 15:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 18:08                                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:05                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-03 13:59                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-03 14:19                                     ` Scott Randby
2016-07-05 18:02                                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  9:00                                 ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-02  9:55                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:17                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 17:51                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-06-29 16:33                     ` Tom
2016-06-29 17:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-29 20:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 22:15                         ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-30  2:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-30 13:41                           ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03  0:08                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 17:30                     ` Allen S. Rout
2016-06-29 20:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30  8:26                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-03 22:36                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 13:58                         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-04 21:20                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-05 22:59                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  4:21                                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:29                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  7:12                                 ` Nikolai Weibull
2016-07-06 22:30                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2016-07-07 12:09                                     ` Nikolai Weibull
     [not found]                               ` <921c10a04c17462988c2821ed40582e7@DB5PR01MB1895.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-06  8:06                                 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-07 21:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                   ` <33003e1e02b04d2db5ee60baff9a040f@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-08 12:23                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-09 16:56                                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-10  6:47                                         ` chad brown
2016-07-10 14:41                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-04 21:33                             ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-05 13:11                               ` Etienne Prud'homme
2016-07-05 14:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 23:03                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06  8:49                                   ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-07 21:54                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 10:44                                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 16:16                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 17:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-07 22:01                               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                           ` <<E1bKBHv-0000lE-Bw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-07-04 22:26                             ` Drew Adams
2016-07-05 17:50                           ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-07-05 20:30                         ` joakim
2016-07-06 22:24                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02  7:18                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02  8:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 15:49                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03  0:06                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 15:53                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-17 13:31               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-18 18:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-18 20:31                   ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-19 11:49                     ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-19 12:36                       ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-17 15:27             ` raman
2016-06-16 23:57           ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17 15:53           ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-18 18:06             ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-20 18:15               ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-20 20:36                 ` Tom
2016-06-28 15:28               ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-16  8:44 ` Re:Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) tumashu
2016-06-16 14:07   ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 15:38   ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole raman
2016-06-16 16:06     ` Robert Weiner

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