From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <831t3fx5pu.fsf@gnu.org> <878txnej61.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467504696 32568 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2016 00:11:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 00:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Allen S. Rout" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 02:11:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJV0S-0004RH-Bp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 02:11:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40560 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJV0R-0007z9-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:11:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUxp-0005af-DI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:08:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUxn-00005p-AI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:08:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUxk-0008W6-Qx; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUxk-0005lX-90; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:08:40 -0400 In-reply-to: (asr@ufl.edu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205101 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Richard, I summarize your desire as "Org should be implemented so that > its features can be composed." I don't entirely understand what you mean by "composed", or "can be composed", but I think we are talking about different issues. > I reply: "Org is an attempt to > -perform- just that composition." Now I am sure we are miscommunicating. What I want is not composability, it's separation. I would like the various features of Org mode (or at least some of them) to be conceptually separate, and documented separately. If they also work together, as they do now in Org mode, I would agree that's a plus. The problem might be partly a matter of how Org mode is presented. When I looked at its documentation, it started teaching me how to enter structured text -- which I personally didn't need, so I decided not to learn Org mode. If Org mode does other things besides that, I might perhaps find them worth learning if they were presented separately. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.