From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <5775A512.4020803@gmail.com> <8337ntvm2d.fsf@gnu.org> <5776B89F.60704@gmail.com> <83k2h5tbtv.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467504389 28154 80.91.229.3 (3 Jul 2016 00:06:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 00:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 02:06:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvQ-0003B8-NU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 02:06:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvP-0003ug-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37070) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvD-0003st-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvB-0007aK-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUvA-0007ZY-1G; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:06:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJUv9-0005KH-Fe; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 20:05:59 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Tom on Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:11:54 +0000 (UTC)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205094 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Org is a complex package which cannot be appreciated > by just giving it a quick glance. That is the problem that concerns me. I am sure Org is very useful. I know that because many people say they like using it. However, bundling together several conceptually separate features makes it harder to start using any of them, and also makes Emacs overall less clean. If these various functionalities were carefully separated out, they could still work together, and in combination they could be just as useful as they are now. And each one, separately, would be more useful than it is now. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.