From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: rswgnu@gmail.com
Cc: rswgnu@gmail.com, adatgyujto@gmail.com, mats.lidell@cag.se,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:18:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1bDgYs-0002kv-OM@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+OMD9g5eTuCdaUT-ox+rsUt+hYWaW=n+4fv9BBE5QnunvSb_w@mail.gmail.com> (message from Robert Weiner on Thu, 16 Jun 2016 10:41:34 -0400)
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Org mode is an example of how Emacs development went astray.
Emacs has many different modes and features. Users should be able to
use them all either separately or (when meaningful) in combination.
The problem with Org mode is that many separate features have been
tied together inside it. You can't use them separately.
The right way to integrate Org mode into Emacs would be to pry out
each of those subfeatures and integrate it individually -- so that a
user could use each of them either with or without Org mode. It is
not too late for people to do this sort of thing, but it should have
been done before.
It may be that this issue applies to Hyperbole too. If so, I hope
that we will handle Hyperbole better than we handled Org mode.
For instance, Emacs should have a calendar which does not depend on
Hyperbole or BBDB or Org mode (but can work well with any of them).
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-15 20:55 Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) Robert Weiner
2016-06-15 21:53 ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole John Wiegley
2016-06-15 22:16 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 0:39 ` John Wiegley
2016-06-16 14:41 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 23:18 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2016-06-16 23:51 ` John Wiegley
2016-06-17 0:19 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17 5:02 ` Tom
2016-06-17 15:29 ` raman
2016-06-17 23:54 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-18 16:47 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-18 17:05 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-28 15:23 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-28 15:43 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-29 14:34 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 15:04 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-30 17:58 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30 23:02 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01 8:17 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-07-01 9:46 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-01 20:53 ` Tom
2016-07-05 18:24 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 23:01 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:21 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:53 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:41 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-01 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 18:38 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-01 21:11 ` Tom
2016-07-02 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-03 0:05 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 18:13 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-01 21:34 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-01 21:58 ` John Mastro
2016-07-02 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02 9:13 ` Achim Gratz
2016-07-02 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-02 10:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:07 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 19:57 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 15:32 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-06 18:08 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03 0:05 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-03 13:59 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-03 14:19 ` Scott Randby
2016-07-05 18:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02 9:00 ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-02 9:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 18:17 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 17:51 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-06-29 16:33 ` Tom
2016-06-29 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-29 20:04 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 22:15 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2016-06-30 2:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-06-30 13:41 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-07-03 0:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-29 17:30 ` Allen S. Rout
2016-06-29 20:04 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-30 8:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-03 22:36 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 13:58 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-07-04 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-04 21:33 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-05 22:59 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 4:21 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:29 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 7:12 ` Nikolai Weibull
2016-07-06 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-07 12:09 ` Nikolai Weibull
[not found] ` <921c10a04c17462988c2821ed40582e7@DB5PR01MB1895.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-06 8:06 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-07 21:54 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <33003e1e02b04d2db5ee60baff9a040f@HE1PR01MB1898.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
2016-07-08 12:23 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-07-09 16:56 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-10 6:47 ` chad brown
2016-07-10 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-04 21:33 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-05 13:11 ` Etienne Prud'homme
2016-07-05 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 23:03 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 8:49 ` Joost Kremers
2016-07-07 21:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-06 10:44 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-05 16:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 17:26 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-07 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1bKBHv-0000lE-Bw@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-07-04 22:26 ` Drew Adams
2016-07-05 17:50 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-07-05 20:30 ` joakim
2016-07-06 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-02 7:18 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-02 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-05 15:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-03 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-05 15:53 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-07-06 22:22 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-17 13:31 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-06-18 18:02 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-18 20:31 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-19 11:49 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-19 12:36 ` Fabrice Popineau
2016-06-17 15:27 ` raman
2016-06-16 23:57 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-17 15:53 ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-18 18:06 ` Richard Stallman
2016-06-20 18:15 ` Karl Fogel
2016-06-20 20:36 ` Tom
2016-06-28 15:28 ` Eric S Fraga
2016-06-16 8:44 ` Re:Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package) tumashu
2016-06-16 14:07 ` Robert Weiner
2016-06-16 15:38 ` Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole raman
2016-06-16 16:06 ` Robert Weiner
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