From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20160222175244.30186.2617@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87k2lwv5ob.fsf@gmx.de> <87egc4v4hs.fsf@gmx.de> <8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default> <87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com> <2b98a5dd-7f46-4e92-9398-ede070c261de@default> <87k2lnfg3o.fsf@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456851281 7170 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2016 16:54:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 16:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Joost Kremers Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 17:54:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYk-0004SZ-Cv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 17:54:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50960 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYk-0005lV-1E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:54:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34455) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYc-0005gR-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYa-0007VZ-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:53:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYP-0007H8-Cd; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:53:45 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aanYO-00048c-FL; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:53:44 -0500 In-reply-to: <87k2lnfg3o.fsf@fastmail.fm> (message from Joost Kremers on Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:53:31 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200852 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Perhaps I shouldn't be butting in, being only a modest package > maintainer, but I that doesn't make sense to me. To me, `cl' is so > obviously an abbreviation for Common Lisp that I would automatically > expect any function (macro, etc.) prefixed with `cl-' to be a > Common-Lisp emulation function. I agree. Indeed, the only reason we have `cl' and `cl-' is that some users wanted to add emulation of lots of Common Lisp functions, and I agreed to it provided they did not go into the main Emacs name space. When we add Lisp construct for some other reason, rather than putting it in `cl' or prefixing it with `cl-', we have better options: * If it is useful enough, give it a short name. * If it isn't useful enough for a short name, give it a long name. Perhaps in some special case a non-CL function seems to fit CL so closely that we could treat it as an honorary import from CL by putting it in `cl' and `cl-'. That could be right in some very special cases. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.