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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:45:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1aYH1M-0006ia-SR@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default> (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:39:01 -0800 (PST))

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  > It's insane that Emacs now calls these `cl-caddr' etc., instead of
  > calling them `caddr' etc. like all other Lisps (those that have
  > them) - including Emacs prior to this renaming.

"Renaming" is a misleading description of what happened.
Emacs Lisp never included a caddr function under any name
before among its standard functions.

There was a caddr function in the optional cl package (which I suppose
is still there), and there is now a cl-caddr function in the cl-lib
package.

						     Hard to believe
  > this actually went down.

In 1985 I needed to keep Emacs small.  I could not afford to add
functions such as caddr.

Today, there is no need to keep Emacs so small.  So we may as well add
c...r and c....r to Emacs Lisp.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160222175244.30186.2617@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1aXuf6-0007rW-6h@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-02-22 18:51   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 20:41     ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 20:49       ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-22 20:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 21:07         ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 21:19           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 22:48             ` Michael Albinus
2016-02-22 23:22               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 21:39           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-22 21:42             ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-22 22:28               ` Oleh Krehel
2016-02-22 23:15                 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23  1:05                 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23  1:58                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-23  2:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-23 16:41                     ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 16:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-23 17:11                         ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23 22:48                           ` John Wiegley
2016-02-24  1:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24  2:00                               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-24  2:50                                 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24  2:17                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  3:32                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24  3:52                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  3:53                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24  4:09                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-24  4:23                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 15:18                                   ` Nicolas Richard
2016-02-24 15:33                                     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-24 12:21                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-02-24 15:29                                   ` Nicolas Richard
2016-02-24 16:51                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24  4:08                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-24 10:02                             ` Stephen Berman
2016-02-29  6:24                   ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29  7:06                     ` John Wiegley
2016-02-29 15:41                       ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 19:53                       ` Joost Kremers
2016-03-01 16:53                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-29 17:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 18:11                       ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 18:47                         ` John Wiegley
2016-02-29 19:28                           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 20:05                         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 21:19                           ` Drew Adams
2016-02-29 21:57                             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-29 22:19                               ` Drew Adams
2016-03-01 16:53                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-01 20:09                           ` John Wiegley
2016-02-23 17:45                 ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]               ` <<87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <<E1aYH1b-0006nO-9u@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-23 18:09                   ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24 13:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-22 23:29             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-22 23:50               ` Drew Adams
2016-02-23 17:45             ` Richard Stallman [this message]
     [not found]         ` <<87egc4v4hs.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]           ` <<8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default>
     [not found]             ` <<E1aYH1M-0006ia-SR@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-02-23 18:05               ` Drew Adams
2016-02-24 13:41                 ` Richard Stallman

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