From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:57:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83twle71xy.fsf@gnu.org> <87io1us0te.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83pow26svf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8n5srbp.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83d1s17npz.fsf@gnu.org> <87oablfpn3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <834mdd6llx.fsf@gnu.org> <7fbb8bc7-9a97-4bad-a103-a6690a35241d@default> <834mdc5w6o.fsf@gnu.org> <838u2hu6aq.fsf@gnu.org> <871t899tde.fsf@gnus.org> <83y4ahru04.fsf@gnu.org> <83fuwproyf.fsf@gnu.org> <837fi0sz29.fsf@gnu.org> <83egc8qzjh.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org> <83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <8360xinj5s.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456163911 24913 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2016 17:58:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 17:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 18:58:18 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aXukQ-0000r3-Qc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:58:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50940 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXukQ-0004dp-BX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXukM-0004cy-FF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXukL-0005y9-Hk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:58:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXukC-0005sb-53; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:58:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuk6-00085z-1H; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:57:54 -0500 In-reply-to: <8360xinj5s.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:05:19 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200470 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Please let's drop the idea of determining the folding behavior > > automatically from something in Unicide. It is too rigid. > We don't determine the behavior from Unicode. We use the Unicode data > to implement the behavior we consider useful. What we have seen is that the behavior that comes from that Unicode data does not please the users very much. Users seem to have many different ideas of what folding is useful, and disagree with each other greatly. We should not cling to the set of folding specs that happen to come from that Unicode data. Let's forget that Unicode data. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.