From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: beginning-of-defun (again) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <56320200.4050503@online.de> <87twp951ug.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446168943 2729 80.91.229.3 (30 Oct 2015 01:35:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 01:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andreas.roehler@online.de, ohwoeowho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "John Wiegley" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 02:35:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrybI-0001YG-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 02:35:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47955 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrybH-0007Ld-L2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zryb5-0007LR-5Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zryb4-0004sL-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zryaz-0004nY-JD; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zryay-0008L1-VL; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:35:09 -0400 In-reply-to: (johnw@newartisans.com) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192939 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > There's no reason for a defun to not start on a newline. > This is not true. In my init.el where I use use-package, here are the counts: > defuns starting at column 0: 24 > defuns not starting at column 0: 120 A miscommunication is visible here. You're talking about whether they _do_ start in column 0, and Oleh was talking about whether they _must_ not start in column 0. Is there a specific practical reason why it is important for the defuns in init.el not to start in column 0? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.