From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:08:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442239832 3018 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2015 14:10:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21472@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 16:10:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSa-0005WJ-TV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 16:10:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41155 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSa-00082b-9p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:10:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSO-0007mg-DH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:10:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSK-000541-If for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:39925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSK-00053Z-G2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:10:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUSJ-0007ru-Lt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:10:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21472-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21472.144223974830111 (code B ref 21472); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21472) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2015 14:09:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbURQ-0007pa-07 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbURO-0007pN-CK for 21472@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbURG-00042h-R0 for 21472@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUR9-0003us-Cz; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbUR8-0000xI-O6; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:08:50 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Sun, 13 Sep 2015 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106534 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Emacs Info manuals have long used double-quotes for two things: > * Setting off terms that are defined (e.g., glossary terms). > (This is presumably the case for the occurrence of "codepages" > in this same node.) Those are English quotation marks. > * Programming strings - e.g. Lisp strings (including file-name strings). We write Lisp strings in Lisp syntax, which includes ASCII doublequote characters. > Emacs > handles three different conventions for how to separate lines in a file: > newline ("unix"), carriage-return linefeed ("dos"), and just > carriage-return ("mac"). > Why curly double-quotes here? Either those quoted names are supposed > to be Lisp strings or they are proper names. I don't think they are Lisp strings. Those are informal aliases, not proper names, hence call for English quotation marks. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.