From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:56:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> <834mlyh1v4.fsf@gnu.org> <83egl1g6tm.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435157854 26530 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2015 14:57:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 16:57:23 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m78-0008IH-7d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:57:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51139 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m77-0007nd-MK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43837) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m6n-0007kJ-6c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m6m-0007ms-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:57:01 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38924) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m6c-0007if-9e; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:56:50 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m6b-0006st-39; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:56:49 -0400 In-reply-to: <83egl1g6tm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:48:21 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187474 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Does this mean that both curly braces, in Emacs Lisp doc strings, > > will appear as ' on a terminal which can't display curly braces? > Yes. > > That's a total screw. Developers using such a display > > will not be able to distinguish the two. > "C-x =" can tell the difference. But yes, it's not very convenient. > However, standards.texi was recommending to quote 'like this' for > quite some time now, That's a different issue. If you put two different curly quotes in the buffer, and they look like ` and ', you will understand what's going on once you know that convention. But if they both look like ', it is a screw for editing. For this reason, we should not put any curly quotes in doc strings at present. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.