From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> <834mlyh1v4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435157713 23671 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2015 14:55:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 16:55:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4s-0006Xv-FK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:55:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51120 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4r-000568-Qv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42005) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4o-000563-FO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:54:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4n-00061o-M7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:54:58 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39585) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4d-0005tf-Fv; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7m4c-0004ik-Ds; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:54:46 -0400 In-reply-to: <834mlyh1v4.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:37:51 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187472 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Oops. I meant to write "quotes", not "braces". It should be: > > Are the ASCII equivalents of the two curly quotes ` and '? > No, they are ' and ', in line with the recommendations of the GNU > Coding Standards. Does this mean that both curly quotes, in Emacs Lisp doc strings, will appear as ' on a terminal which can't display curly quotes? That's a total screw. Developers using such a display will not be able to distinguish the two. If they display as ` and ', editing will be feasible once you understand the convention. If they both display as ', it makes no sense to try this even as an experiment. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.