From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:37:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435063190 2479 80.91.229.3 (23 Jun 2015 12:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, tsdh@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 23 14:39:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NUH-0004fc-Re for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:39:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45118 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NUH-0000UU-Bx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:39:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NSz-00077O-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:38:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NSy-0005B1-Lm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:38:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NSd-00050P-HO; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:37:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7NSc-0004UI-9p; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:37:54 -0400 In-reply-to: <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:26:17 +0300) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187408 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > For instance, how will this affect developers whose terminals won't > > display curly quotes, in editing the source code? > > How does Emacs display curly quotes on such terminals? > In those cases, we use a display table to display them as their ASCII > equivalents. Are the ASCII equivalents of the two curly braces ` and '? If so, the code will look natural, and most editing will work fine. However, searches for those characters will have unpredictable results. As that user writes changes, he will insert real ` and ' rather than curly braces. But maybe the new electric quote mode will convert them. If so, I don't see any problem off hand, except search. That is not a grave problem, but it is a problem. Given how little benefit this will give us, why make the change? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.