From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:38:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434397899 28166 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2015 19:51:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 15 21:51:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aPq-0003uN-Jy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:51:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aPq-0007hB-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:51:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aPm-0007gf-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aPk-0006Iy-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:51:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aPV-0005Ph-PB; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:51:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4aDD-0005QL-Iq; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:38:27 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187197 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I think we should aim to represent Lisp code as ASCII so it can be edited without an input method. This is a separate question from how Emacs should represent quotations when it displays doc strings and error messages. If we indicate quotes in doc strings and messages using a recognizable convention, the functions involved can display them however we wish -- or however the user wishes. It could display them as '...', or as `...', or as Unicode curly quotes if the terminal can display Unicode curly quotes. The reason I originally adopted `...' was to permit nested quotations. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.