From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:12:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d25juy8m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83iofa8lu2.fsf@gnu.org> <87twytg0m8.fsf@engster.org> <83wq3p7ki2.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw4lfz2q.fsf@engster.org> <87a90krb19.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423696408 8652 80.91.229.3 (11 Feb 2015 23:13:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 00:13:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgTG-0004m7-8M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:13:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47359 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgTF-0007Ug-HX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:13:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgSu-0007Qf-8k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:13:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgSt-0007in-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:13:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35761) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgSr-0007id-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLgSV-0007a6-Q8; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:12:40 -0500 In-reply-to: <87a90krb19.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:35:14 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182925 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I don't see that at the current point of time, _anybody_ could claim to > speak for the GNU Project but yourself There are a few specific issues where I have to make a decision, but that's the exception. In general our philosophy is clear and explicitly stated, and it's easy to say where we stand. Getting back to the point, David reported that someone on a GCC discussion list sent him a dismissive and unhelpful message. That message was mistaken. He does not need to be a GCC developer to get features from GCC. Developers of other GNU packages can ask the GCC maintainers (which is not the same as asking the discussion list) to help in a joint project, and I can urge the GCC maintainers to cooperate. This is what it means for GNU to be a coherent project, not just many separate projects. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.