From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhk7v5d0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423519656 19565 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2015 22:07:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 22:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, netcasper@gmail.com, slewsys@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 09 23:07:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUO-0000ol-0R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 23:07:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUN-0002FY-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57857) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUH-0002By-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUG-0003J2-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUG-0003Is-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKwUG-0007VP-42; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:07:24 -0500 In-reply-to: <87lhk7v5d0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:47:23 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182751 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > That appears to have been in 2005, before GPL v3 was published. > > GPL v3 is what Apple hates, because of its patent protection. > But the current attempts to strike against LLVM by making it harder to > interoperate with Emacs and GCC are _irrelevant_ with regard to patent > protection: the patent protection applies even for mere aggregation. You've taken pieces from two different puzzles and observed that they don't fit together. It's true, but no surprise. > We are not changing Apple's policies. That is true. I don't see any way we can change Apple's policies. > What we are now doing is lashing > out against LLVM's users. What I said is that this calls for a thoughtful decision, not a reflexive snap decision. You're putting an emotional charge on it that has nothing to do with me. It comes from you. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.