From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defending GCC considered futile Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:04:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20150207202952.1042BC00A6@snark.thyrsus.com> <87bnl5wh2c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423440371 23186 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2015 00:06:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 00:06:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 09 01:06:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbre-0001td-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 01:06:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58157 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbrd-0006zy-Px for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:06:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbqO-0005Ln-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:04:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbqN-0006my-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:04:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbqN-0006ms-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:04:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YKbqM-0003lf-St; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 19:04:50 -0500 In-reply-to: <87bnl5wh2c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 07 Feb 2015 22:24:43 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182647 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Sadly, I think that the negative impact on both Emacs and GCC by > blocking both Emacs/anycompiler and anyIDE/GCC integration is larger > than what we can hope to achieve regarding negative impact on LLVM. GCC is a different issue -- as far as I know, this question does not involve GCC in any way. It may relate to GDB. If we substitute GDB for GCC in what you wrote, your statement makes sense. And it might be correct. But I want to see what's going on here rather than assume. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.