From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:37:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> <87387rvobr.fsf@engster.org> <83ppat84hk.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106143933.0090bc83@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3v77ij6.fsf@gnu.org> <20150106154539.3d0752c4@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87wq4ype3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878uherlf3.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20150108194342.1bd83ed1@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <20150109131335.1a39f892@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <54B18CE1.8060504@dancol.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421077089 23759 80.91.229.3 (12 Jan 2015 15:38:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, perry@piermont.com To: Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 12 16:38:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh46-0007oi-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:38:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34792 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh45-0007t5-Q9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:38:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43951) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh40-0007pW-GG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:37:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh3z-0003XZ-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:37:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh3z-0003XK-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:37:55 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YAh3x-0002lK-TX; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 10:37:53 -0500 In-reply-to: <54B18CE1.8060504@dancol.org> (message from Daniel Colascione on Sat, 10 Jan 2015 12:34:41 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181177 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > What you call "pressure", I see as advocacy. It is both. I am not going to decide based on anyone's "advocacy". I intend to look at the issues carefully and see what conclusions really follow from them. > Does Clang's popularity inform your decision-making process? Not in the way you want it to. You demand I draw certain specific conclusions from that, and take certain actions. I can see other possible conclusions to draw from the same facts. > I've seen > no evidence in this thread that you're considering the broader social > context. You won't see it here. Your kind of "advocacy" is no help to me in making the right decision. I'm not going to take counsel from people who are trying to pressure me. > Do we need to repeat this process every few years and every time someone > thinks of a new way to integrate GCC and Emacs? You don't "need" to do anything about this. It is not your responsibility, and you are not by boss. I have now quoted three successive insults from your message. I'm not interested in discussing a difficult decision with someone who treats me as you do. Rather, I will wait, forget about what you have said, and then make an unprejudiced decision after consulting others whose advice I value. This will take time. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.