From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:02:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvn1y0vx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fvn0senq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8761nusb90.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87vbkovhh7.fsf@engster.org> <87387rvobr.fsf@engster.org> <874ms2tsw5.fsf@engster.org> <87r3v5snza.fsf@engster.org> <87mw5ts1d6.fsf@engster.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420761809 738 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2015 00:03:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 00:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 09 01:03:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N2p-0002EE-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 01:03:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N2o-0000Eh-Rt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56496) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N1s-000887-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:02:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N1r-0001ux-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:02:16 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N1r-0001uo-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:02:15 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9N1q-0003yd-DT; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 19:02:14 -0500 In-reply-to: <87mw5ts1d6.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 17:06:45 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181080 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > LLVM already has native frontends for C/C++/ObjC (clang), Java, and Go, > and a maybe halfway finished one for Fortran. So it seems the only GCC > frontend that LLVM is actually missing is Ada. You have just mentioned two of them -- Ada and Fortran. There is also Pascal. You and several others are trying to pressure me to decide to make GCC output the full AST. I have seen insults and harassment. I have seen distortions. This is not the way to convince me. It is the way to make me resent your behavior. Beyond that, your analysis is one-sided and tendentious. It would be wrong to decide based on a one-sided analysis. That is not the way to reach a valid conclusion. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.