From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419811068 13512 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 23:57:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 29 00:57:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiP-0005L9-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:57:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiP-0000Zf-7c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiK-0000W3-9g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiJ-00009b-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiJ-00009T-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NiI-0001hZ-KF; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:57:34 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Sun, 28 Dec 2014 00:03:41 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180779 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It is unclear what you object to. Is it: > 1) Using a service like Google etc to find documentation. > 2) Using internet as a communication channel to a (search) server set > up and controlled by FSF to find documentation? #2 is bad because it makes people need a net connection. Anything that makes people need a net connection for their own computing is bad. #2 makes them dependent on the FSF, which is also bad. #1 is similar; the only real difference is that it makes people dependent on Google instead of the FSF. Google is worse in practice, but in principle this dependence is bad no matter who people are dependent on. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call.